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How to win — and lose — Decoder

Decoder host Nilay Patel and producer Nick Statt discuss the show’s approach to accountability journalism, the challenges of interviewing media-trained executives, and the evolving landscape of AI coverage.

Key Points

  • Nilay Patel defends his intense interview style, citing the Superhuman CEO Shishir Mehrotra episode as a successful example of holding tech leaders accountable.
  • The show maintains a strict policy of not providing questions in advance, refusing to accept edits, and avoiding brand-integrated sponsorships to preserve editorial independence.
  • Patel argues that ignoring controversial figures or companies does not make them disappear, justifying his decision to platform polarizing tech executives.
  • The podcast is shifting its AI coverage to focus on enterprise use cases where the technology has found genuine product-market fit, rather than just consumer hype.
  • Patel is currently writing a book titled How to Get What You Want, which aims to provide an "instruction manual" for navigating corporate structures and decision-making.

Why it Matters

This discussion highlights the growing tension between traditional journalism and the rise of influencer-led media in the tech industry. By prioritizing direct, unscripted questioning, Decoder serves as a critical counterweight to the highly curated, PR-driven content often found in modern business podcasts.
The Verge Published by Nick Statt, Nilay Patel
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